Quoting PCB design

It should be noted that this method is only for quoting PCB design, or PCB layout, notproduct development, overall electronics project design,schematic capture or manufacturing. If you need a quote for any of these, please contact us.

If you get stuck on how to estimate any of these three quantities, but have anetlist generated from your schematic, send the netlist as an attachment to anemail and we will quote from that.

  1. "Component lead count" (or "Pin Count," it's name from pre-SMT days) is a count of all of thecomponent leads (or pins), whether connected to nets or not and includingmounting hardware, as estimated from the schematic hard copy or bill ofmaterials. This is the best, simplest method of estimating the size and scope ofthe printed circuit design job. If you have only a hand-sketch for aschematic, then this is the only method that makes sense for this simple method. If you have no schematic yet, then a ball-park quote on component lead count is still your best method.

    However, a component lead count can take some time for a very large schematic
    (unless you use Protel and would download and learn Arachnophilia)..   Most CAE software is not setup to generate a component lead count automatically.   But they can usually generate oneof the following data, which we can quote from:

  2. "Node Count" or "Connected Pin Count" A node is a pin or lead which will have at least one wire connected to it. To get a node count automatically, extract the netlist inPads-PCB ASCII format and then literally count the dots (periods, ".") in the *NETS* section.  An equivalent alternative is to extract a Protel- or Tango-format netlist and count the hyphens ("-").  I use mytext editor to count these for me. I select the *NETS* section, and have the editor automaticallycount the periods or hyphens in the selection. 1 Arachnophilia

  3. "Connection Count", "Pin Pair Count" or "From-To Count"  Many schematic capture programs will automatically extract a report that gives connection count as a statistic for each sheet. To obtain this number, one would generate astatistic report and then add up the connection counts from each sheet's section of the report. Please note that the following is a true statement:
    By definition,
    [node count] = [connection count] + [net count]

We need the X- and Y-Dimensions to obtain an aspect ratio and area for estimating density. If this is notdetermined, give us the maximum dimensions which you can easily tolerate. Ifthe board has an irregular shape, do your best in giving us a simplifiedrectangular equivalent in shape and area of the sum total of portions of the board available for component placement. If you have no idea yet, then allowyourself enough room by adding up the sum total of the rectangular area takenup by each component (including its leads, and you'll need the component "spec sheets" for this) and doubling that. This will giveyou enough room for the components and routes without having to go to over fourlayers (except for BGA designs) and without needing to put components on both sides of the board.


1 Arachnophilia  I use the freeware, actually "CareWare", Arachnophilia 4.0 for Windows for counting specific characters in a selection. That's the same HTML editorused to design this web site and is a very useful all-purpose text editor. I use theold Windows version, instead of the new 5.0 Java version, because the newversion no longer has this feature of counting a particular character within aselection.

Protel can be used with Arachnophilia to get a pin count. When you create the Pads-ASCII netlist, have Protel include "one-pin unnamed nets." Thus, the "netlist" for counting pins includes the nodes of unconnected pins, giving you a pin count when you do this:  Select the *NETS* section, and have the editor automatically count the periods in the selection. This won't include any mounting hardware or mounting holes of connectors which are not specifically included in the schematic's symbols, so you would add those in to get the total correct component lead count.

— John Walt Childers, IPC-CID

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